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Convictions & Concerns

TAT members share their personal convictions and/or concerns


A Part of Thee


Richard Rose's poetry showed a side of his psychology that didn't manifest much in his daily life. It was a softer side, which is greatly evident in his poetry.1 My all-time favorite is "A Part of Thee," which begins with this couplet:

Though you should seek me, or, still never know Me, I am with thee....

It speaks directly to the heart of longing and reminds me of how he would usually dismiss any Q&A talk about love … but how one time, at a university talk in Raleigh or Chapel Hill, he responded to a woman's question by saying, softly: "Love is the purpose of life, but we don't have time to go into it now."

"Though you should seek me, or, still never know Me, I am with thee...." Unless you've found Me, it doesn't matter whether you tell yourself you're seeking or not. (You are.) And it brings up the question of self. Life is all about self and other, and self and other are all about love. The opposite of self is other or not-self, not "no self." Self … self … self … why talk about anything else? Self = THE PROBLEM. No self = NO PROBLEM???

1. The idea of "no self" is absurd!

Zac Brown Band performs a country western song called "Knee Deep" that ends with: When you lose yourself, you find the key to paradise, and begins with: Gonna put the world away for a minute. Let's do that ... let's put the world away for a minute and remember why we're here. [A minute of silence. Try it....]

According to my dictionary, "self" is a pronoun of the 3rd person and reflexive (i.e., referring back to the subject). Talk of 1st vs. 3rd person views reminds me of Douglas Harding and his heartfelt greeting: "My dear, dear friend...." It reflected the 1st-person view of "being busted wide open for love" as Douglas sometimes described it.

eccentric circles from Academy Artworks When we—typically—want the other person to be busted wide open for love, we are looking through the 3rd-person view. The 3rd-person view is symmetrical, meaning that it reflects a conviction that we're like what we see … I'm a person like that person, having a head, looking out of two eyes, and so on. Oddly enough, the symmetrical view is the one that's eccentric, not centered. Knowing the self—awakening to what we are at the center of our being—is a triangulation over or behind the 1st and 3rd person views. It's beyond the subject-object split, beyond the reflexive view.

To say there's no self is absurd. We see physical evidence of selves, and although there's no proof that we aren't dreaming them or projecting them holographically, the fact that you and I can agree on the primacy of the evidence lends credit to it. I don't say that I am this body, but I say that I have this body [tapping my fist on my thigh]. And I definitely love this leg more than yours :-) On the other hand, let's remember that the eyes don't see … the mind sees.

And there's overwhelming mental evidence. Our primary feeling is the sense of I-amness, of self-consciousness, of being a separate, aware subject of all that we experience. Thus we can testify to the unambiguous assumption of a mental self, although when we look in the mind for this mind-self, we can't witness a substantial entity. From the standpoint of the mind-body entity, the existence of a self is evident—and painful. Nisargadatta Maharaj termed it the sting of the scorpion.

What about the view of the jnani, who's not identified with the body, vs. the ajnani's view? To say that there's no self [person, individual, separate being] is absurd from the standpoint of both the ajnani and the jnani. The jnani can testify that the mind-self they previously thought themself to be does not really exist, but that's very inexact use of language since "exist" comes from the Latin ex + sistere, to stand outside of … and their body does stand outside of (and arguably inside of) what they are. A better way for the jnani to express the distinction would be to say that the self I used to believe I was isn't really Me. What they have found is the Real Self, which is an (the) absolute state of being beyond/before relativity's time and space. The jnani knows with Certainty what they are and knows that nothing about the relative cosmos can be known for sure.


2. Look for that of you which is eternal

Years ago I questioned my friend Shawn Nevins when he said he'd found a new thread for self-inquiry by looking for a part of himself that was eternal. I'd responded with something along the line of: "Wouldn't that just be more duality … finding another part?" A few days later a letter arrived from him in the mail. When I opened the envelope a wave of anger hit me. Reading his note, he said that confronting someone who had been depressed and then found a new line of inquiry was detrimental. In retrospect, I think he'd latched onto something that might be a crevice in the rock face for a climber, a thread to the Absolute … and am now a little more circumspect, I hope, in my reactions.

A couple years before that exchange, during a TAT Foundation gathering when Richard Rose was still functioning, he said something to me that lodged firmly in my memory. During those years Richard's wife prepared food for the weekend gatherings and I took orders from the participants, sometimes going into the kitchen for hot items. I had gotten a bowl of soup and was crossing the meeting room to give it to the person who had ordered it when someone I had passed called my name. I heard Richard Rose say, "I'm right behind you," to prevent me from bumping my elbow and spilling the soup if I turned around suddenly. Then, not missing a beat, he added sotto voce, "I'm always right behind you."

I'm always right behind you.... Those added words sent a chill and a thrill through my mind. Whereas the first statement was a pragmatic communication between two people, I felt the low-voiced addition to be coming from a much deeper place. Not from a place of transience, but from the place of eternality that I was looking for.


3. Go on the offensive

Louis L'Amour and Max Brand wrote compelling Western adventures, often about a Wild West town or ranchers who were being terrorized by a bunch of outlaws. Their heroes were usually solitary characters who either were just passing through or had been summoned by a friend, and they would end up protecting the hapless victims by going on the offensive against overwhelming odds … taking the fight to the bad guys (terrorists).

The terrorists in the struggle to settle our soul are merely well-intentioned idiots—the fear and desire "voices"—designed to keep the body functioning. But they can impede our progress unless we go against the flow rather than with it. The flow is like a wind that blows our barque along its journey from life to death … and our objective is to find what we are at the core of our being while still living.

How do we go against the flow? Admiral Jim Ellis cited an epigram expressed by a physics professor when he was a student in the Naval Academy: "If you want traction, you must first have friction."

It turns out there's plenty of friction going on most of the time among the various internal fear and desire voices demanding to be satisfied. The war of these "selves" that we serially identify with becomes more obvious the more we introspect or consciously watch the movements of the mind. The more we're able to watch with detachment, the less we may find ourselves seeking distraction or temporary fixes. We become more aware of the friction of our internal world and face it rather than run from it.

sailing barque If you're a vegetarian, eat meat! An example of a specific way to go against the flow is to question and test our convictions. Suppose we're vegetarian based on a conviction that it's wrong to eat other animals. We can delve into our motivations, we can look for arguments that conflict with our beliefs, and we can try eating meat to observe our reactions. (Do you know where the word "vegetarian" comes from? According to professional complainer Andy Rooney, it's a Native American word for poor hunter :-).

Another, more aggressive way to go against the flow is to inhibit some of the drives that divert or sap our energy. This will bring the "terrorists" out in the open, where we can get a better feeling or view of their influence … and determine whether it lines up with our primary objective. As former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld concluded after the 9/11 terrorist attack: "It is not … possible to defend against terrorists day and night, in every location, against every method of attack…. We must go on the offensive."2

Seeking to know what we are (i.e., seeking Me) is something we feel our way toward. Thinkers and feelers approach it differently, but all progress comes by intuition. And that's problematic because intuitional shifts typically come into consciousness with great conviction ... yet progress on the path to Truth/Reality/Self is one of growing uncertainty, of increasing discomfort.

Do you pray? Most prayer takes the form of asking for 2 + 2 to yield something other than 4 as one humorist quipped. The Christian mystic Teresa of Avila said that: "Prayer and comfortable living are incompatible." We can go on the offensive by:

The word self is an Old English suffixed form of the base *s(w)e-. Another interesting derivation related to that base is the word swami, from the Sanskrit base svah, "one's own master or lord." The real Lord is not a separate being but the Only Being.

Do you meditate? If so, why? Are you looking for peace by burying your head in the sand? There's plenty of peace in the marble orchard, as Richard Rose used to say. (Marble orchard, if you're not familiar with it, is a slang term for cemetery.) Instead of running away from conflict—trying to escape from the angst of life—look for that which will settle your soul.

The word meditation comes from the root med-, to take appropriate measure. The Latin predecessor meditari means to think about, consider. The synonym "contemplate" means to look at attentively and thoughtfully. Richard Rose defined meditation as "productive thinking." He wasn't promoting thinking as an end in itself but as a means to go beyond thought. The technique he recommended in his "Meditation Paper" and described in greater detail in his Psychology of the Observer3 is one of turning the inner head away from irrelevant thoughts. (Not trying to substitute a more relevant thought.)

Meditation is really quite simple:

The mind-self feels what it wants (i.e., lacks) and is constructed to satisfy the want—food, shelter, and so on, all the way up to absolute X (Love, Certainty, you name it). It watches / looks for what it wants—often getting distracted by what appears, but eventually goaded again to find what it's looking for—by turning away from interesting distractions. By remembering what you feel as your deep wanting & by noticing (consciously, effortfully as needed) what you're seeing, the mind more productively turns away from the "99 other things." Set aside some time each day to notice. First thing in the morning sends a message to the inner self. Conserve energy to aid the process of conscious noticing. Watch the mind calibrate the probability of relevance of what it's seeing & turn away from low-probability content. The child's heart-hunger is still accessible. Last thing at night: Review the day for action toward attainment; ask your dream-maker for insight.

"How do we do it? We do it by carrying water on both shoulders, but by not allowing it to touch either shoulder. We stagger soberly between the blades of the gauntlet with recklessness and conviction, but we pick our way through the tulips with fear and trepidation, because the trap of the latter is sweet. We charge the gates of Heaven by urinating our way through Hell, all the while sitting for forty years on the banks of the Ganges, doing nothing. We sit on the banks of the Ganges, not from laziness, but from an anger at angriness, a fury against our inner fury for wasted activity. And we pull back a terrible arrow … but never let it go. And by so holding, with the universe as our target, the universe is filled with terror at our threat…." ~ Richard Rose, Direct-Mind Experience4

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I'd like to leave you with the final stanza of "A Part of Thee." The complete poem5 is available in the July 2005 issue in the "TAT Forum" archive.

Though you should seek me I am with thee still,
Though still you seek, look to the quiet hill,
When ev'ning mists and clouds descend and ride
In toneless ecstasy about its wide
Immobile shoulder; or when in from long
At sea you seem to sense a happy song
In flick'ring harbor lights and smell of green,
Or when in scented bower the dove unseen
Doth speak more eloquently than the sage,
Or when the sea-loved shore with surf doth rage,
Or when you note the littered bitch and learn
How her brute soul doth mellow with concern
At its new task; or look to infants' eyes,
Or trusting youth's, or if you are more wise,
Look deep into thyself for I am there,
For I am love, and I am everywhere….
A part of thee,—and happily I share.


Footnotes:

1. Richard Rose's poems are collected in Carillon: Poems, Essays, and Philosophy of Richard Rose.

2. In Rumsfeld's autobiography Known and Unknown: A Memoir

3. Psychology of the Observer.

4. The Direct-Mind Experience.

5. See https://tatfoundation.org/forum2005-07.htm#1 for the complete "A Part of Thee" poem by Richard Rose.

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~ This is material for a presentation made by Art Ticknor at the October 2011 retreat of the Raleigh (NC) Self Inquiry Discussion Group. The theme for their third annual weekend retreat was "The Paradox of Spiritual Effort." A video version is available in the TAT Talks section of the TAT Foundation's YouTube Channel.


 


TAT Foundation News

It's all about "ladder work" – helping and being helped

Downloadable/rental versions of the Mister Rose video and of April TAT talks Remembering Your True Desire:

"You don't know anything until you know Everything...."

Mister Rose is an intimate look at a West Virginia native many people called a Zen Master because of the depth of his wisdom and the spiritual system he conveyed to his students. Profound and profane, Richard Rose was not the kind of man most people picture when they think of mystics or spiritual teachers. Yet, he was the truest of teachers, one who had "been there," one who had the cataclysmic experience of spiritual enlightenment.

Filmed in the spring of 1991, the extraordinary documentary follows Mr. Rose from a radio interview, to a university lecture and back to his farm, as he talks about his experience, his philosophy and the details of his life.

Whether you find him charming or offensive, fatherly or fearsome, you will not forget him, and never again will you think about yourself, reality, or life after death in quite the same way.

3+ hours total. Rent or buy at tatfoundation.vhx.tv/.


2012 April TAT Meeting – Remembering Your True Desire

Includes all the speakers from the April 2012 TAT meeting: Art Ticknor, Bob Fergeson, Shawn Nevins and Heather Saunders.

1) Remembering Your True Desire ... and Acting on It, by Art Ticknor
Spiritual action is like diving for the Pearl beyond Price. What do you do when you don't know what to do or how to do it? An informal discussion centered around the question: "What prevents effective spiritual action?"

2) Swimming in the Inner Ocean: Trips to the Beach, by Bob Fergeson
A discussion of the varied ways we can use in order to hear the voice of our inner ocean, the heart of our true desires.

3) A Wider and Wilder Vision, by Shawn Nevins
Notes on assumptions, beliefs, and perspectives that bind and free us.

4) Make Your Whole Life a Prayer, by Heather Saunders
An intriguing look into a feeling-oriented approach to life.

5+ hours total. Rent or buy at tatfoundation.vhx.tv/.

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