TAT 2016 November Gathering
Drunk in this Tavern

Friday through Sunday
November 18-20, 2016
at the Claymont Society Mansion, WV

Spiraling descending stairs

We find ourselves inebriated in this existence, not knowing how we got here. As Jalal al-Din Rumi (1207-1273) described the situation in "Who Says Words with My Mouth?" (in the wording by Coleman Barks):

All day I think about it, then at night I say it.
Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing?
I have no idea.
My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that,
and I intend to end up there.

This drunkenness began in some other tavern....

(See the March 2006 TAT Forum for the complete poem.)

Is there help in finding our way Home?

Meet our presenters:

  Anima Pundeer: Identifications and Attachments

In June of 2004, Anima Pundeer had an experience where she realized her All-ness and One-ness.... She finally knew Freedom. She feels immense gratitude for all the help and guidance she got from her fellow seekers. She feels she couldn't have made this journey without her Guru and her friends—and the only way she feels she can help anyone is by sharing her own struggles and obstacles.

Anima is highlighted in the documentary film Meetings with Remarkable Women. She is a super busy mother of two who lives with her family in Houston, Texas. When she has spare moments, she weeds her vegetable patch.

  Art Ticknor: What to do? What to do? (co-presented with Bob Cergol)

Art Ticknor worked first hand with numerous psychological and philosophical systems during years of intensive research. Twenty-six years of effort toward self-definition paid off in 2004, when the final nail was driven into the ego's coffin during an intense Realization.

Art is the author of the books Solid Ground of Being and Beyond Relativity, invaluable guides on the quest for self knowledge. He currently lives the life of a modern day mystic and is involved in the Philosophical Self-Inquiry Discussion Group in Gainsville, Florida.

  Bob Cergol: What to do? What to do? (co-presented with Art Ticknor)

Bob Cergol was 19 when he met Richard Rose in 1972 and soon after attended the initial gathering wherein the TAT Foundation was officially formed. After 27 years of seeking, Bob found the ultimate answer—an answer precipitated while reading Alfred Pulyan's personal correspondence with Rose, dated August 1960.

Over the past decade, Bob has delivered a number of poignant presentations during TAT events and has authored numerous Forum essays that were ultimately published in Beyond Mind, Beyond Death, a TAT Foundation Press book. Bob and his wife have two girls, now both in college, and he works in the Information Technology field.

  Paul Constant: Doubt—The Two-Edged Sword of Spiritual Seekers

Paul Constant has been a TAT member since 1985. His fascinations and explorations are directed toward uncovering the mysteries of life and ourselves. Of late, his spiritual interests include balancing the natural intelligence of our body, the wisdom and resourcefulness of our mind, and the feeling-sense of our Heart. Read his essays Friendship and Spiritual Rapport (PDF file), or visit searchwithin.org.

For the past 30 years, Paul has expressed his love for Truth by facilitating retreats, leading rapport sittings, serving as a TAT Foundation member, and studying with spiritual teacher Richard Rose during 1985-1995. Paul and his wife live in Pennsylvania. They were adopted by two kittens in 2013.

  Shawn Nevins: Presentation in the Poetry of Rumi

Shawn Nevins "fell onto the spiritual path in 1990," had an enlightenment experience in 1999, and since then has enjoyed making films, writing, and working with the TAT Foundation as well as his own small group in California. His creative endeavors include the book The Celibate Seeker and the film Closer Than Close—an acclaimed documentary on Self-realization. Shawn is also the co-author of Images of Essence. See his work at poetryinmotionfilms.com.

Shawn and his wife currently live in the San Francisco Bay area.

The registration deadline for the November Gathering is Sunday, November 13th.

Weekend Schedule

Lonely Tree

Friday, November 18, 2016

  5:00 to 7:30 PM - Set-up and arrivals

  7:30 to 7:45 PM - Welcome session for early arrivals

  7:45 to 9:00 PM - Identifications and Attachments by Anima Pundeer
If the Absolute/God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient, then why do we not truly know this? What is the penny that hides the Sun? When Anima looks back on her spiritual path, she came to understand that there was no recipe for Self-Realization. She heard that the Answer lay within but felt clueless about how to go within. Any system that she tried only took her outwards. She had a feeling she could go into more interior rooms, but they were still opening outside. Additionally, she heard that it is our attachment and identification with this self that keeps us from finding the real Self. She also had a hard time understanding what exactly was meant by the "ego" that was supposed to be at the root of all her problems. In her session, Anima will talk about identifications and attachments that hide the Sun....

  9:00 PM to ? - Informal conversation

Saturday, November 19, 2016

  7:30 to 8:00 AM - Optional group meditation

  8:00 to 8:30 AM - Break

  8:30 to 9:45 AM - Potluck breakfast and open discussion

  9:45 to 10:00 AM - Break / clean up

  10:00 to 10:15 AM - Welcome and introduction

  10:15 to 11:30 AM - What to do? What to do? by Bob Cergol and Art Ticknor
What longing motivates a spiritual path? What is the source of the longing – i.e., what is the motivation behind the motivation? Avoiding more talk of what the answer looks like, how do we go about answering the question for ourselves?

  11:30 to Noon - Break

  Noon to 1:30 PM - Potluck lunch and open discussion

  1:30 to 3:30 PM - Breakout groups for self-inquiry led by Anima Pundeer, Art Ticknor, Bob Cergol, Paul Constant, and Shawn Nevins.

  3:30 to 5:30 PM - Free time, with optional ad hoc movement sessions

  5:30 to 5:45 PM - Break

  5:45 to 6:45 PM - Potluck dinner and open discussion

  6:45 to 7:00 PM - Break / clean up

  7:00 to 8:00 PM - Doubt: The Two-Edged Sword of Spiritual Seekers by Paul Constant

"We must learn to doubt, not only the verbal testimony of others, but the persuasions of our own beliefs, and keep looking for symptoms of self-delusion..." ~ Richard Rose, Psychology of the Observer

"There is nothing more insidiously destructive to the attainment of liberation than self-doubt and cynicism." ~ Adyashanti

Like most traits, our ability to doubt cuts both ways. As seekers, we should employ a healthy doubt when evaluating spiritual systems and teachers. That is, we should remain open to possibilities without fully believing what we're reading or hearing. By contrast, doubting ourself—doubting our ability to see the obvious and feel what is true in our heart—might lead us astray for years or even decades. In his session, Paul will reveal his own failures and successes and help us navigate the tricky balance between these two aspects of doubt.

  8:00 to 8:30 PM - Rapport Sitting by Paul Constant
Rapport means "harmonious relation," which is allowing yourself to open up through rapport with others, your self, and with what is. It is the meaning behind the saying: "Where two or more are gathered in my name, there I am present." Paul will facilitate this silent group session.

  8:30 PM to ? - Informal conversation

Sunday, November 20, 2016

  7:30 to 8:00 AM - Optional group meditation

  8:00 to 8:30 AM - Break

  8:30 to 9:45 AM - Potluck breakfast and open discussion

  9:45 to 10:00 AM - Break / clean up

  10:00 to 11:30 AM - Presentation in the Poetry of Rumi by Shawn Nevins
Readings and reflections as we explore the depths of Rumi's poems.

  11:30 to Noon - Meeting wrap-up and feedback for future meetings

  Noon to 1:30 PM - Potluck lunch and open discussion

  1:30 PM to ? - Optional ad hoc sessions and free time

Location and Facilities

Claymont Mansion

The event is being held at the Claymont Society Mansion near Charles Town in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia. The mansion's historical ambience mixes perfectly with 350 private acres of forests and farmland. Sleeping accommodations include a mixture of single and double beds in 12 rooms and 6 shared bathrooms. Claymont provides towels and bed linens for overnight guests (guests make and strip their own beds). During the registration process, we will do our best to accommodate room preferences, but all mansion guests should expect to share sleeping quarters and bathrooms with other participants. On-site camping is available in the lawn area near the mansion.

The Claymont Society Mansion is located at 577 Huyett Road, Charles Town, WV 25414 [GPS coordinates: N39.26740, W77.90390]. Claymont is 50 miles/60 minutes from the Dulles International Airport near Washington D.C. Travel directions to Claymont Mansion.



The November Gathering fees per person for TAT members are as follows:

The non-member fees per person are:

Full-time students should contact for information on discounted registration fees.

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Become a TAT member for $40 on or before October 19th and register at the discounted member prices.
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Registration Fees*

Please enter your name and email address in the boxes below and select your meal preference from the drop-down list:



Vegetarian meals?

From the drop-down list below, select the registration fee that applies to you. Select "no lodging" if you will either camp on site or arrange off-site lodging on your own.


Note: If cost is a serious issue that will make or break your attendance, please let us know. We do not want someone to refrain from attending for reasons of cost.

2016 TAT Membership - $40*

Become a TAT member for $40 and register at the discounted member prices. Or, renew your annual membership. See details on our membership page.



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* The TAT Foundation hosts four public events each year. Registration fees vary depending on the event location. Because we are an all-volunteer organization, please allow up to 5 business days before receiving confirmation of your payment. See our membership overview or email if you have questions about registration fees.

Space is limited, so registration is required. The deadline for registration is Sunday, November 13th. You may cancel your registration on or before November 13th and receive a refund, minus a $5 handling fee. Cancellations after November 13th will not be refunded. Because ADA-compliant facilities are limited in the mansion, persons with a disability should contact before registering.



Meals are potluck style for Saturday and Sunday continental breakfasts, Saturday and Sunday lunches, and Saturday dinner. We ask that each event participant bring 2 items, totaling about $15. A good rule of thumb is to bring enough food to serve 7 people with each item. All meals are included for non-members. Sorry, we cannot reduce fees for those who prefer to bring their own food. TAT will provide coffee and tea.



For those who register using the alternative (off-site) lodging option, the following overnight accommodations are located near the Claymont Society Mansion:

For more information...

phone: (609) 414-3676

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